Posts by The Fall Guy

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Helping my husband wake up, need advice.

by Whynot in

my husband is dfed but he is a prime example of someone who was a puppet for the watchtower.

i was able to wake him a little with the sex abuse scandal.

he was an elder and is very familiar with those rules.

The Fall Guy

Carefully select one of these 14 questions and ask him how he would answer - using his Bible, not the literature.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6257545095151616/jw-dogma-analysis-lurkers-faders-consider

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Should it be considered sexual harassment?

by Addison0998 in

on thing that really makes me angry and disgusted is when i think of the way in the past that the elders pressured me over and over again to have a meeting with them over a petty make out and petting incident.

they asked such instrusive, personal questions like, “did he touch your breast, for how long?

under or over your clothes?” i know that this happens to thousands of people, especially young women, and it’s just not right, it makes me so angry that i almost feel tempted to confront the elder who especially did this, when i see him at the convention in a few weeks and tell him what a sick person he is and how much trauma he caused me, manipulating me and pressuring me to answer such instrusive questions while he sat there and took notes!!

The Fall Guy

Addison0998 - I'm sorry you've gone through the cult's star-chamber system, but hopefully you'll benefit from having shared it here.

You said, "It pisses me off so much how much power and influence they have over people."

Sorry to correct you, but you should have said, "It pisses me off so much how much power and influence people allow them to have over them."

When JW's waken up to the facts that -

a) they are not scripturally commanded to confess serious sins to any elders, and

b) that they are not scripturally commanded to discuss/reveal their private & personal issues with elders - that's when the elders lose their self-claimed & fictitious power over the congregations.

Create your own elder-firewall - "It's not something which I can/want to discuss at the moment, but if things change, I appreciate the fact that I can call on you for your help. Thank you, and goodbye, scumbag!"

Politely, but firmly, shut them out of your personal business - and your life!

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Org's Data Protection Document - Question

by The Fall Guy in

are "inactive" publishers being asked to sign it, or is it only for "active" ones?.

i haven't been troubled by any of the local jw stasi about it.

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The Fall Guy

I haven't been to a "cover" meeting in months! I'd better show face soon. Maybe then they'll ask me to sign. :)

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Org's Data Protection Document - Question

by The Fall Guy in

are "inactive" publishers being asked to sign it, or is it only for "active" ones?.

i haven't been troubled by any of the local jw stasi about it.

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The Fall Guy

Are "inactive" publishers being asked to sign it, or is it only for "active" ones?

I haven't been troubled by any of the local JW Stasi about it.

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JWs & "generations"

by Magnum in

we all know what a mess the jw "generation" teachings have been.

but, there is one hard and fast truth concerning jws and "generations" - that is, that many generations of jws have died without the realization of the hope they were promised.. there were many before my grandfather's time, but i'm going to start with his.

his generation, his peers, lived at a time when jwdom was exciting, bold, confident, seemingly deeper and scholarly, seemingly genuinely concerned about the preaching work and saving lives.

The Fall Guy

The very first talk at the convention this year is now telling the present generation of JW's to expect the end soon.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6618103304683520/anybody-know-if-full-programme-convention-available-video

JW's clearly believe that "soon" is a bungee word - it can be stretched to be as long as necessary.

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Musical Chairs in Bristol England = £1 million sterling!

by The Fall Guy in

the congregation shuffle rolls on in bristol england, and a cool £1million is to be made for watchtower britain.. bristol - hengrove has been disbanded as of may 2018 and is now merged into one of the prime real estate parts of the city in an area called clifton, with bristol-redland congregation of jw's.

the hall is an old victorian building, bought and paid for by redland since the late 1940's, although since then, bristol has seen expansion up until the 1990's to about 12 plus congregations in about 7 kingdom halls, and then reduced to 5 kingdom halls and 10 congregations.

redland has always stood alone with one congregation in it's hall.

The Fall Guy

I haven't a clue - and don't call me Shirley!

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Anybody know if the full programme of convention available in video ?

by BluesBrother in

jw
friends

just the above...... in recent times the full sessions have found their way onto youtube.

i have not found it this time.

it has been geatly appreciated.

The Fall Guy

Wow! Very first speaker introduces brief video of Samuel Herd, (GB) who proceeds to warn JW's that they need to have courage -

a) "as world's conditions worsen"

b) "soon, the world will experience the foretold great tribulation"

c) and that the convention "helps you to be prepared for what lies just ahead."

At the end of the GB video, the speaker adds to the fearmongering by saying, "Let me ask you first to get us started; Do you consider yourself a courageous individual? Do you feel that you have the.....strength in the face of....danger."

Put terror into all of the JW's minds and the minds of their children - right from the word 'Go.'

Enjoy the 3 days of your fear-inspiring conventions JW's, and arrive home spiritually refreshed as you await the appearance of the possible horrors predicted by the "faltering slave."

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Musical Chairs in Bristol England = £1 million sterling!

by The Fall Guy in

the congregation shuffle rolls on in bristol england, and a cool £1million is to be made for watchtower britain.. bristol - hengrove has been disbanded as of may 2018 and is now merged into one of the prime real estate parts of the city in an area called clifton, with bristol-redland congregation of jw's.

the hall is an old victorian building, bought and paid for by redland since the late 1940's, although since then, bristol has seen expansion up until the 1990's to about 12 plus congregations in about 7 kingdom halls, and then reduced to 5 kingdom halls and 10 congregations.

redland has always stood alone with one congregation in it's hall.

The Fall Guy

The congregation shuffle rolls on in Bristol England, and a cool £1million is to be made for Watchtower Britain.

Bristol - Hengrove has been disbanded as of May 2018 and is now merged into one of the prime real estate parts of the city in an area called Clifton, with Bristol-Redland congregation of JW's.

The hall is an old Victorian building, bought and paid for by Redland since the late 1940's, although since then, Bristol has seen expansion up until the 1990's to about 12 plus congregations in about 7 Kingdom Halls, and then reduced to 5 Kingdom Halls and 10 congregations. Redland has always stood alone with one congregation in it's hall.

As of September 2018 the Redland congregation is being kicked out of its £1,000,000 value building and moved lock stock and barrel to a rough northern suburb called Southmead and being forced to share with two other congregations in a nondescript 1970's brick built kingdom hall worth about £250,000.

To facilitate this, the Almondsbury congregation is being booted out of the Southmead building and moved out of the circuit into the next one and the inmates will have to drive north to share with Thornbury (who will now have to share for the first time)

There are other shuffles going on, but the net result is that WT gets the proceeds of £1 million (estimate) when Redland's hall is sold.

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Little Gems From the Forked-Tongue of the "Faithful slave"

by The Fall Guy in

if you don't accept the wtbts's snake poison, it become a constrictor and crushes your "powers of discernment" (hebrews 5:14).

w69 3/15 p. 166 why it is wise to examine your religion; we need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated.

are its teachings in full harmony with god’s word, or are they based on the traditions of men?

The Fall Guy

Hi DOC, thanks for the suggestion, but as the cult used to teach me in the Ministry School, "Repetition for emphasis."

Trying to stress to anyone ensnared by the org that their revered "faithful slave" does not allow its adherents to discuss or test the hierarchy's dogma - while preaching the opposite to all non-JW's.

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Little Gems From the Forked-Tongue of the "Faithful slave"

by The Fall Guy in

if you don't accept the wtbts's snake poison, it become a constrictor and crushes your "powers of discernment" (hebrews 5:14).

w69 3/15 p. 166 why it is wise to examine your religion; we need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated.

are its teachings in full harmony with god’s word, or are they based on the traditions of men?

The Fall Guy

If you don't accept the WTBTS's snake poison, it become a constrictor and crushes your "powers of discernment" (Hebrews 5:14)

w69 3/15 p. 166 Why It Is Wise to Examine Your Religion; We need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated. Are its teachings in full harmony with God’s Word, or are they based on the traditions of men? If we are lovers of the truth, there is nothing to fear from such an examination. It should be the sincere desire of every one of us to learn.........